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		<title>By: Jim Baumer</title>
		<link>http://lascheratlarge.com/2009/11/25/making-the-most-of-making-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Baumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts like this one of yours gives me hope--hope that there is still energy reserved by some towards revitalizing and re-making media.

When we had lunch back in April when I visited LA (one of my invigorating 10 days in the City of Angels), much of what you talked about seemed positive, not all doom and gloom about the future of media. Obviously, your trip to Portland left an impression on you. Your mention of community and &quot;finding your people&quot; resonated with me. I&#039;ve been looking for &quot;my people&quot; for 47 years and haven&#039;t found more than a precious handful of them along the way. Maybe the time is drawing nigh for me to leave New England behind. I think that when my son finishes his MFA, in Providence, I&#039;ll have a clearer sense of where I&#039;ll domicile next. Until then, I&#039;m biding my time, holding down a job that&#039;s fairly challenging, and trying to muddle forward with my own writing.

A very dear friend moved to Portland not long ago and she loves it. She is the new Ex. Dir. of the Community Cycling Center in Portland. Who knows--maybe I&#039;ll paths will cross again in the Pacific NW.

Keep pressing forward in your quest and don&#039;t be deterred by the current crop in charge; they continue to run their papers, and other media ventures into the ground. It&#039;s time for something vital, and new.

Much success to you and new adventures in 2010, whether in LA, Portland, or elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts like this one of yours gives me hope&#8211;hope that there is still energy reserved by some towards revitalizing and re-making media.</p>
<p>When we had lunch back in April when I visited LA (one of my invigorating 10 days in the City of Angels), much of what you talked about seemed positive, not all doom and gloom about the future of media. Obviously, your trip to Portland left an impression on you. Your mention of community and &#8220;finding your people&#8221; resonated with me. I&#8217;ve been looking for &#8220;my people&#8221; for 47 years and haven&#8217;t found more than a precious handful of them along the way. Maybe the time is drawing nigh for me to leave New England behind. I think that when my son finishes his MFA, in Providence, I&#8217;ll have a clearer sense of where I&#8217;ll domicile next. Until then, I&#8217;m biding my time, holding down a job that&#8217;s fairly challenging, and trying to muddle forward with my own writing.</p>
<p>A very dear friend moved to Portland not long ago and she loves it. She is the new Ex. Dir. of the Community Cycling Center in Portland. Who knows&#8211;maybe I&#8217;ll paths will cross again in the Pacific NW.</p>
<p>Keep pressing forward in your quest and don&#8217;t be deterred by the current crop in charge; they continue to run their papers, and other media ventures into the ground. It&#8217;s time for something vital, and new.</p>
<p>Much success to you and new adventures in 2010, whether in LA, Portland, or elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Thatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Thatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Michelle R. on this one--size is the main factor. Not just the challenge of pulling together people from all over a city that&#039;s notorious for being difficult to get around, but also the sheer number of people who&#039;d be interested in attending.

I&#039;ve seen it happen over and over again with a variety of groups here: they start out somewhat intimate, with a lot of energy and connection among participants, and everyone has such positive feelings that they tell their friends, and then they tell their friends, and suddenly the organizers are looking for a venue that can hold 250 people. Great for speed-networking, but more challenging for the kind of intellectual synergy that you seem to crave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Michelle R. on this one&#8211;size is the main factor. Not just the challenge of pulling together people from all over a city that&#8217;s notorious for being difficult to get around, but also the sheer number of people who&#8217;d be interested in attending.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen it happen over and over again with a variety of groups here: they start out somewhat intimate, with a lot of energy and connection among participants, and everyone has such positive feelings that they tell their friends, and then they tell their friends, and suddenly the organizers are looking for a venue that can hold 250 people. Great for speed-networking, but more challenging for the kind of intellectual synergy that you seem to crave.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven A. Smith</title>
		<link>http://lascheratlarge.com/2009/11/25/making-the-most-of-making-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven A. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Terrific, thoughtful post, One of the best to come out of the conference. But, please, don&#039;t lump me in with Ron Buel re: old guard vs. new and the Twitter corner. I had no problem at all with that group, though I later challenged some of the critical remarks as not being based on what was actually said.

One of the things I noticed sitting back there with the Twitter group during a couple of subsequent sessions -- the attention required to properly Tweet makes it very difficult to actually listen to what is being said. So some of what was happening back there was reactive to what people thought was being said or who was saying it as opposed to what was actually transpiring.

I am always uncomfortable with generalizations and stereotypes. So the above references only some of what was happening. But it was noticeable.

I was saddened by Ron&#039;s division of the group into old white guys and everyone else. That is an old, false and damaging way of discounting the complex roles played by the widest range of players in an enormously complex dialogue.

I am by no means an old guard journalist. Anyone who reads my blog knows that. But I am a traditionalist in supporting a form of quality journalism that, until recent times, was nurtured and supported by legacy media. Most of the people participating in this conference brought sophisticated, nuanced points of view to the discussion. And the people I met defied easy categorization or stereotyping.

I hope something grows out of this effort. As I said in my remarks, I have seen too many talk fests lead nowhere. Any real-world action growing out of the Portland conference will constitute a win.

Steve Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Terrific, thoughtful post, One of the best to come out of the conference. But, please, don&#8217;t lump me in with Ron Buel re: old guard vs. new and the Twitter corner. I had no problem at all with that group, though I later challenged some of the critical remarks as not being based on what was actually said.</p>
<p>One of the things I noticed sitting back there with the Twitter group during a couple of subsequent sessions &#8212; the attention required to properly Tweet makes it very difficult to actually listen to what is being said. So some of what was happening back there was reactive to what people thought was being said or who was saying it as opposed to what was actually transpiring.</p>
<p>I am always uncomfortable with generalizations and stereotypes. So the above references only some of what was happening. But it was noticeable.</p>
<p>I was saddened by Ron&#8217;s division of the group into old white guys and everyone else. That is an old, false and damaging way of discounting the complex roles played by the widest range of players in an enormously complex dialogue.</p>
<p>I am by no means an old guard journalist. Anyone who reads my blog knows that. But I am a traditionalist in supporting a form of quality journalism that, until recent times, was nurtured and supported by legacy media. Most of the people participating in this conference brought sophisticated, nuanced points of view to the discussion. And the people I met defied easy categorization or stereotyping.</p>
<p>I hope something grows out of this effort. As I said in my remarks, I have seen too many talk fests lead nowhere. Any real-world action growing out of the Portland conference will constitute a win.</p>
<p>Steve Smith</p>
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		<title>By: The Classic Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Classic Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! Great read, in fact, refreshing. None of us understood what we were diving into, but what a groundswell of networking and conversations our participation created. Thanks for including my post on 360 Convos your list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Great read, in fact, refreshing. None of us understood what we were diving into, but what a groundswell of networking and conversations our participation created. Thanks for including my post on 360 Convos your list.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Rafter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Rafter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice reflections Bill. Having lived and worked in LA and Orange counties for a long time I understand it when you say you don&#039;t feel the same cohesiveness in the j-community there that you did here last weekend. The good and bad thing about LA is its size. It&#039;s good if you want to eat authentic Vietnamese or buy saris from India or move to town as a kid and seek your fortune. But when it comes to getting people to drive somewhere to congregate, it&#039;s a mother. And there&#039;s that whole Hollywood thing. Portland&#039;s smaller, better for public transportation, and the vibe is closer to Silicon Valley than San Fernando Valley. I think the smaller scale also makes people feel like they really can innovate, start something, make a difference. Oh, and the beer&#039;s better.

We can&#039;t wait til you&#039;re here full time!

michelle rafter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reflections Bill. Having lived and worked in LA and Orange counties for a long time I understand it when you say you don&#8217;t feel the same cohesiveness in the j-community there that you did here last weekend. The good and bad thing about LA is its size. It&#8217;s good if you want to eat authentic Vietnamese or buy saris from India or move to town as a kid and seek your fortune. But when it comes to getting people to drive somewhere to congregate, it&#8217;s a mother. And there&#8217;s that whole Hollywood thing. Portland&#8217;s smaller, better for public transportation, and the vibe is closer to Silicon Valley than San Fernando Valley. I think the smaller scale also makes people feel like they really can innovate, start something, make a difference. Oh, and the beer&#8217;s better.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t wait til you&#8217;re here full time!</p>
<p>michelle rafter</p>
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